[VPS 18] Ridiculously slow speeds over TWC (Time Warner Cable) to my Hostigation VPS
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For those interested I have done more tests and this time I got it ranging from 1-2 MB/s on just one HTTP/1.1 connection for the two destination points that were struggling. So what changed? Well, some parts of the route still go through Telia, TWC, but one notable thing has changed.

I now see the peering go through a new ASN, AS 6453 which is operated by TATA COMMUNICATIONS. I suspect this has something to do with the better speed. I have no idea what they have changed specifically since I am not that advanced, but I can guess somebody has taken steps to solve these issues I have been experiencing. I just wish we could get a response from Hostigation on what is going on with their network lately, hopping from being good to worse to good again seems a little weird?
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I noticed when I trace routed the test ip of Hostigation, it seems to be really slow also... I get over 100ms from the west coast to the east coast, it's just poorly routed, probably they need to buy more bandwidth from other companies or get better peers...
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(2017-01-16, 2:07:03 pm)IEpicDestroyer Wrote: I noticed when I trace routed the test ip of Hostigation, it seems to be really slow also... I get over 100ms from the west coast to the east coast, it's just poorly routed, probably they need to buy more bandwidth from other companies or get better peers...
Well, it can't possibly be worse than the bandwidth at ColoCrossing, can it? It's not something new that low-end providers buy cheap bandwidth, because ultimately they have to save where they can.

Speed is back to being low for me today again, even with TATA communications in the game. I can only guess there might be different link on the weekends, or that there has been some traffic limiting/shaping at the bandwidth providers.
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(2017-01-18, 4:58:24 am)Erno Wrote: Well, it can't possibly be worse than the bandwidth at ColoCrossing, can it? It's not something new that low-end providers buy cheap bandwidth, because ultimately they have to save where they can.

Speed is back to being low for me today again, even with TATA communications in the game. I can only guess there might be different link on the weekends, or that there has been some traffic limiting/shaping at the bandwidth providers.

I've just got upgraded to fibre internet this afternoon, was booked a week back, but then I don't think that will make much of a difference..
The connection, for me, goes over Time Warner Cable, but from the reverse dns names in my trace route I get, it seems to like to take a detour to South Carolina first before going back up to North Carolina, and I live in western Canada....
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(2017-01-18, 11:25:13 am)IEpicDestroyer Wrote: I've just got upgraded to fibre internet this afternoon, was booked a week back, but then I don't think that will make much of a difference..
The connection, for me, goes over Time Warner Cable, but from the reverse dns names in my trace route I get, it seems to like to take a detour to South Carolina first before going back up to North Carolina, and I live in western Canada....

The physical detour you mention is made doesn't really matter. You will automatically take the shortest fastest route to the server, even if this physically doesn't make sense to you
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(2017-01-19, 1:05:05 am)Rick Wrote: You will automatically take the shortest fastest route to the server

No, you will not.

Your ISP can decide for whatever reason to set you or all clients from your region (or just everyone) to the longest route with the worst bandwidth carriers. And the other side can also for whatever reason decide to switch routing over cheap and worse bandwidth carriers (whether to save money, backup lines or whatever...).

That said in this case the route that is picked gets defaulted to the current shortest and best route even if it is bad. You have no choice after all. For servers in your control you might have luck. Some data centers actually are so cool and let you switch between peering carriers (of course for a fee and some maybe for free).
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Here's a long list of speed tests I made on my VPS 18 to back up this claim even more.

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root@gandalf:~# speedtest-cli --server 1945
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Archnitec (206.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Hosted by SoftLayer Technologies, Inc. (Dallas, TX) [1494.36 km]: 28.628 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 195.93 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 24.95 Mbits/s
root@gandalf:~# speedtest-cli --server 4041
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Archnitec (206.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Hosted by SoftLayer Technologies, Inc. (Washington, DC) [531.39 km]: 71.702 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 51.91 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 8.40 Mbits/s

root@gandalf:~# speedtest-cli --server 7456
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Archnitec (206.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Hosted by QuadraNet, Inc (Los Angeles, CA) [3404.32 km]: 62.413 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 200.24 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 14.40 Mbits/s
root@gandalf:~# speedtest-cli --server 5979
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Archnitec (206.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Hosted by SoftLayer Technologies, Inc. (Toronto, ON) [944.39 km]: 795.325 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 0.57 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 0.28 Mbits/s

root@gandalf:~# speedtest-cli --server 4045
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Archnitec (206.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Hosted by SoftLayer Technologies, Inc. (Amsterdam) [6717.02 km]: 107.504 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 139.75 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 11.07 Mbits/s
root@gandalf:~# speedtest-cli --server 9913
Retrieving speedtest.net configuration...
Retrieving speedtest.net server list...
Testing from Archnitec (206.xxx.xxx.xxx)...
Hosted by fdcservers.net (Amsterdam) [6717.02 km]: 106.929 ms
Testing download speed........................................
Download: 13.13 Mbits/s
Testing upload speed..................................................
Upload: 9.60 Mbits/s

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#18
A final comment from me to those who are aware of this problem and want something to be done about it. It should be something to think about.



The utmost important decision of which bandwidth carriers and routes are used is absolutely not an easy one. It involves a lot of factors and affects a lot. Some of the affected parts are very vital for the survival of the hosting company.

Premium bandwidth and routing is very expensive, can blow up the budget of the company and in the worst case even make the company bankrupt if it is taken too serious as it would generate huge bills. Another thing are the target clients of the company and the targeted coverage area in that these clients are in. Good routes and bandwidth may not always be available to certain areas or might be very expensive. You can't make everything right for everyone.

The hosting world has providers that are huge but even they use cheap bandwidth and routes. Guess what: they have a lot of clients and aren't bothering even a bit if they cannot reach some clients with a good connectivity. Take a look at Hurricane Electrics. They are one of the biggest and cheapest bandwidth and route providers out there. A lot of ISPs are peering with them for quite low costs and it usually works out. Don't compare it with renting a server for cheap from a data center like OVH and selling service off it. OVH can afford good bandwidth and routes at an ease.


There is a lot more that is really troublesome and about that you have to think about for quite a while before realizing it into the final product. It's not so easy if you actually have a company that has its own network, hardware and so on.

Long story short: Fixing this issue is absolutely not an easy task and a support ticket will barely get anything going. FreeVPS is only one client of Hostigation. The provider will barely bother. And what you get here is a free product for that FreeVPS pays.
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