Manually Win 10 update
#1
Hello,
I had installed win 10 enterprise N 1607 recently and wants to update it to higher version.. but don't want to download the updates (since the updates are much bigger and I can't keep my slow net on for much time.. so downloading 4-5GB is hardly possible for me at this point).
I also have a all in one insider preview of win 10 of the following details:
OS v: 1703
Evaluation copy. Build 16257.rs_prerelease.170728-1630

Is it possible for me in anyway to take some parts of that insider preview iso and update my current win 10 enterprise manually..?
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#2
I seriously doubt you could just grab things from one setup into an already existing install. That would be so NOT Microsoft. All you could do is install that newer version instead. And if I remember correctly, you could install on the same partition and it would move your older install into a backup directory (assuming you have enough space for the two). And later you could ditch the old install folder all together after you've recovered whatever you needed from it. Or was this whole process available only when upgrading to a major release? Like Vista to 7. I can't see to recall this information accurately. Either way, you still lose your current setup.

I guess you could begin by googling for key words like `windows 10 download upgrade offline` and see where that leads you. Pretty sure some of the answers you'll receive will be based on those results.
#3
I know you can do it manually off line with wsusoffline.net You can tick Windows 10 when you click on the UpdateGenerator. You get to install the updates offline. Not sure however whether the wsusoffline Windows 10 updates are different than for the Windows 10 Enterprise. The wsusoffline updates are for Windows 10/Server 2016 (w100/w100-64)
http://download.wsusoffline.net/
#4
You cannot do what you have described in your initial post! Upgrades and updates unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) don't work this way with Windows or other Microsoft products. You want to upgrade to 1703 from 1607. File replacements won't do it because it is a major version difference, visible through new features, improvements, drivers and etc. In addition Insider Preview is not stable/final version. It won't be compatible with the final Windows 1703 files that you get when installing Windows 1703 via update or a new ISO.

5 GB? Huh. The 64 Bit ISO is just < 4 GB. Can't you let your computer run at night to download it?

You can get the ISO for 1703 or even 1709 here: https://tb.rg-adguard.net/index.php

Select "TechNet Evaluation Center" at "Select type", then select "Windows" at "Select version", followed by "Windows 10 Enterprise, Version 1703, Redstone 2" at "Select edition", finally choose your language at "Select language" and select the 32/64Bit edition at "Select file".


@SLC

You can just run the upgrade and it will create a folder called "windows.old" with the whole old Windows installation on your hard drive (given that you have enough space as you mentioned). This should also work if you perform an upgrade from a new 1703 ISO instead of running the manual installation routine.

This upgrade process usually migrates your personal data and etc to the new installation, too.


@deanhills

Offline WSUS probably doesn't do major version upgrades that have been introduced since Windows 10, does it?
#5
(2017-12-11, 4:37:57 pm)Hidden Refuge Wrote:  You cannot do what you have described in your initial post! Upgrades and updates unfortunately (or maybe fortunately?) don't work this way with Windows or other Microsoft products. You want to upgrade to 1703 from 1607. File replacements won't do it because it is a major version difference, visible through new features, improvements, drivers and etc. In addition Insider Preview is not stable/final version. It won't be compatible with the final Windows 1703 files that you get when installing Windows 1703 via update or a new ISO.

5 GB? Huh. The 64 Bit ISO is just < 4 GB. Can't you let your computer run at night to download it?

You can get the ISO for 1703 or even 1709 here: https://tb.rg-adguard.net/index.php

Select "TechNet Evaluation Center" at "Select type", then select "Windows" at "Select version", followed by "Windows 10 Enterprise, Version 1703, Redstone 2" at "Select edition", finally choose your language at "Select language" and select the 32/64Bit edition at "Select file".


@SLC

You can just run the upgrade and it will create a folder called "windows.old" with the whole old Windows installation on your hard drive (given that you have enough space as you mentioned). This should also work if you perform an upgrade from a new 1703 ISO instead of running the manual installation routine.

This upgrade process usually migrates your personal data and etc to the new installation, too.


@deanhills

Offline WSUS probably doesn't do major version upgrades that have been introduced since Windows 10, does it?
So If I go for downloading a new iso..
Will I be able to upgrade from win 10 enterprise (I mean will the programs installed in it will also get installed on the newer is installed? Since I never tried upgrade option that's why idk)?
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#6
Not sure about how this works with Enterprise but here is a Microsoft upgrade article: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...925?auth=1

Should work also with Enterprise as you can see that this upgrade program is started from a mounted Windows 10 ISO.
#7
(2017-12-11, 4:37:57 pm)Hidden Refuge Wrote:  @deanhills

Offline WSUS probably doesn't do major version upgrades that have been introduced since Windows 10, does it?
My experience is limited to Windows 7 so I'm not knowledgeable with Windows 10 updates with WSUSoffline.net.  As far as I know it only does security updates.  And never any upgrades.  You can check a wsusoffline forum discussion below as to what it covers - maybe you could interpret it for us as well:
http://forums.wsusoffline.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6623
#8
(2017-12-12, 5:28:36 am)deanhills Wrote:  You can check a wsusoffline forum discussion below as to what it covers - maybe you could interpret it for us as well:
http://forums.wsusoffline.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6623

Well, it is as you said. WSUS Offline only provides security updates but not feature updates or whole upgrades (as in Windows 10).

So WSUS Offline is not the solution to OPs problem. Smile


Solutions so far:
1. Upgrade through Windows update by downloading the upgrade package from Microsoft
2. Upgrade through a Windows 10 ISO that is on a newer stage than your installation
3. Upgrade through a Windows 10 DVD that is on a newer stage than your installation

I actually think that is it.
#9
Yes,actually it was a serious problem for me when I was using WINDOWS 10 for my special purposes.But I knew it would would be a large data loss if I wouldn't stop auto updates.So as a treatment for that,
Task manager>Service>windows update and Stopped it.
But it is only a temporal solution.After some time the software called'windows update assistant' is downloaded in our computer and it downloads all the components needed for windows update.
So this video link will be helpful to stop windows update and assistant permanently from your PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo5mvuQ5msE
#10
(2018-03-28, 11:42:01 pm)thisara Wrote:  So this video link will be helpful to stop windows update and assistant permanently  from your PC.
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo5mvuQ5msE

This is brilliant @thisara.  I was completely unaware that one could disable the updates in Windows 10.

I need to ask though - is this above board?  Any Microsoft rules that says one can't do it?  As if ever I install Windows 10, that would be one of the first things I'd like to do.  Have some measure of control over the updates.  Not totally disabling them, but selectively - which probably won't be possible as I imagine as soon as one turns them on again, all of the updates will appear again?  I guess one would have to visit the Microsoft Windows Updates Website and then download and install selective security updates manually?

BTW for those who prefer English instructions, I've found a very good alternative YouTube Tutorial.  There were a good number to choose from indicating users' preference for being able to have greater control over their Windows 10 updates:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xikPDYgDXsY




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