[DISMISSED] Suggestion for hiding specialist content of Forum in exhange of posts?
#1
I've just come across a Forum where I was made to join up and make a number of posts in order to get to content of a post that I was seriously interested in.  There was a tutorial about how to make a myBB Forum mobile friendly.  This is what came up when I followed the Google link to the Forum:

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So I registered, and then found that I had to make 15 posts before I qualified to access the content of the post.  In fact, I needed 9 credit points for it, so that's probably their way to make sure I didn't make a quick 15 spam one-liners to unlock the content.  There's a point system in place.  The points system earns X points for the 15 posts and when one clicks on the hidden content box, then it subtracts the 9 credit points from the points one's posted.  Looks as though this is a different kind of post for info type Forum.  You need to earn your access to the specialist content of the Forum.

Anyway, this I thought is a great idea.  We have some really great tutorials and specialist posts that are regularly consulted that could use a system like this?  Like only go for the really specialist articles with the most visitors.  Get people to sign up and make a number of posts and that way "pay" their way for using the specialist knowledge in the Forum?

Here's a link to the above Forum and Page.
https://nulledbb.com/thread-How-To-Make-...e-Friendly

I don't particularly care for all their red notices about spam - but that may also be an idea.  For the first fifteen posts one is made to endure a little red banner notice on top of the post screen that says "thank you posts" and "spam posts" are against the forum rules and can lead to a ban.  It also says that this notice will disappear after 15 posts have been made.  I was glad when I got to that point.  I'm a little disappointed in the material that I had to work so hard for, as I'd already seen it somewhere else, but it was an interesting post for specialist content experience.
#2
So did you enjoy having to make 15 posts to get to what you were looking for? Because I certainly wouldn't. Especially if i was in a rush and to be honest, I wouldn't even know if it was indeed what I was looking for.

Sure, this idea works for some communities if you have something to get, like a theme or some other assets and resources. But simple knowledge? Nah, I couldn't support that even if I wanted. Knowledge should be easily accessible. At least that's my opinion. Which means anyone is entitled to disagree with what I just said.
#3
For that to work, you need to have really good articles. freevps articles are mostly known for being like shortcuts you could take. Instead of scouring the internet collecting nuggets one could come and follow a tutorial.

Also our main thing is vps. Those articles help increase exposure and rank. But really very few have unique or new content or insight. So this idea won't work.

Also yes. I believe knowledge should be free. To support that i can go to jail for the lib gen rus site owners or even in place of julian assange if they would let me..
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#4
Well, If admins implement this, There would be no difference in NulledBB , Leakforums and in freevps.
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#5
(2018-02-25, 1:31:58 am)rudra Wrote:  For that to work, you need to have really good articles. freevps articles are mostly known for being like shortcuts you could take. Instead of scouring the internet collecting nuggets one could come and follow a tutorial.

 Also our main thing is vps. Those articles help increase exposure and rank. But really very few have unique or new content or insight. So this idea won't work.

Also yes. I believe knowledge should be free. To support that i can go to jail for the lib gen rus site owners or even in place of julian assange if they would let me..

If you check the nulledbb Forum not all articles get to be targeted.  Only the really good ones obviously.  They have a separate section on tutorials for myBB and not all articles in the special section are used.  Just those with obvious content that wouldn't be generally found elsewhere.  We do have some of those tutorials here at the Forum.  A good size number from Hidden Refuge and SLC for starters that have unique content in them that aren't generally found everywhere else. 

I also feel knowledge should be free, but things are changing for Forums like these.  Used to be post for hosting only, but that is slowing down, not only at FreeVPS but all other Forums in this category.  It calls for a radical rethink.  Quara does this too.  Irritating, but there has to be a good side to getting people to sign up and getting them to participate after X lurking is allowed.

(2018-02-24, 11:37:17 pm)SLC Wrote:  So did you enjoy having to make 15 posts to get to what you were looking for? Because I certainly wouldn't. Especially if i was in a rush and to be honest, I wouldn't even know if it was indeed what I was looking for.

Sure, this idea works for some communities if you have something to get, like a theme or some other assets and resources. But simple knowledge? Nah, I couldn't support that even if I wanted. Knowledge should be easily accessible. At least that's my opinion. Which means anyone is entitled to disagree with what I just said.

I'm a post nut @SLC.  You have to know that at least by now. Tounge  I did enjoy it though as it was novel to me and I'm presently working on learning about myBB forum design and practice.  I got experience with a Forum that is aspiring to higher standards, but I'm not too sure it is reaching it.  Like it seems to have plenty of rules about quality staring you in the face, and threats to ban you if you didn't toe the line, however I saw plenty of duplicate threads, one-liner posts etc. there - like itching to clean them up.  They're probably lacking in staff to do that, who knows.  I also got a peek into how they do the locking of content stuff.  Then from a myBB forum design, I learned a few things too.  So it wasn't entirely wasted, and making 15 posts for me was not that difficult. The Forum still has my interest so I'll probably make a few more posts while I'm learning more. I created an Avatar and noticed something novel in that.  Everything in that Forum so far has had at least a small percentage of doing it a little bit different that I found interesting and am learning from.
#6
@deanhills You are the exception rather than the rule though. Just because it's something you don't mind doing doesn't mean everyone else will feel the same way.

When encountering locked content in a forum, most people would probably either a) spam the living sh*t out of the forum to unlock it, or b) move on to the next result on Google. With b), after browsing pages and pages of search results, then maybe, just maybe they might look into unlocking the content.

Now, like what SLC said, if your forum has some unique content that can't be found elsewhere e.g. themes, assets, resources, skins, rare footages, then maybe locking the content could work. But if it's just knowledge and tutorials, those things are relatively commonplace and can probably be found in various websites which don't require registration to view - Stack Overflow and its sister sites, reddit, forums for the specific software you're googling about, documentation sites, knowledge base of various companies e.g. Digital Ocean and Linode, tech blogs, the list goes on and on. Against this backdrop, I can safely say this forum doesn't have that much unique or exclusive content to offer.

The most it would do is maybe slightly increase the registration count, but I don't think it'd do anything to promote actual activity or posting of quality content in the forum.
#7
@thirthy_speed  There's an irony to this. After all of the hard work and finally being able to unlock the content, I found that the locked content was not original content.  It had been taken from a blog - not sure whether it was the owner of the blog who posted it - but it was taken almost verbatim word for word from a blog post that had been created two years before (March 2015).

Here's a link to that thread - I've posted to it and haven't received a response to my post:
https://nulledbb.com/thread-How-To-Make-...#pid258750

@Mods/Admin I'd like to withdraw this suggestion. Think I've just proven to myself that it can only work with a lot of hard work - it's most probably not practically feasible. Can you close the thread - thanks.
#8
I would have to agree with @SLC here.

While that sort of plugin can be very nice on some websites I dont think it would have much value here. As mentioned some users just can not be bothered to post just for knowledge and besides that I will always maintain that knowledge is the #1 thing that should always be free for all.
#9
Closed on request by @deanhills.




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